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Of Course Michael Morse Will Continue To Produce For The Washington Nationals, Right?

When the Washington Nationals called first baseman and '06 1st Round pick Chris Marrero up late in the 2011 campaign, Nats' skipper Davey Johnson told reporters that Michael Morse, who'd taken over at first when Adam LaRoche went down with a shoulder injury, would move back to left so that they could get a look at what Marrero could do at the major league level. An additional benefit of the move, the manager explained to Washington Times' writer Amanda Comak, was that it would give Morse time to prepare for the 2012 campaign, when LaRoche would return and play first in the second year of his 2-year/$16M dollar deal. "'Ideally,'" the 69-year-old skipper told the Washington Times' reporter, "when LaRoche comes back, we'll have LaRoche at first and probably [Morse] in left field. But definitely, we'll have him somewhere every day."

Morse was a different player (offensively) when he was in left field as opposed to first base. In 83 games and 354 plate appearances as a 1B last year, Morse had a .336/.401/.601 slash with 27 of his 35 doubles and 19 of his 31 HR's. In 52 games and 208 plate appearances in left, Morse had a .254/.293/.482 line. BABIP? .384 as a 1B, .282 as a LF. In his career, Morse has played 102 games as a first baseman, in 402 career PA as a 1B, Morse has a .327/.388/.579 line. As a left fielder, the 29-year-old, seven-year veteran has a .250/.300/.459 line in 62 games and 240 plate appearances. Coincidence? Insignificant?

Star-divide

Davey Johnson doesn't think it will make a difference where Morse plays in the field. When he was asked about the move to make room for Marrero this past season, he told reporters, "As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't affect him at all. He's still hitting cleanup. He's had a great year. He's been more of a mainstay in the lineup than anybody else in the lineup. It's never easy changing position, but when you go from first base to the outfield, you're probably just going to get a little bored out there on the field because there's not as much action." Davey's predecessor, Jim Riggleman, wasn't buying it either, telling MLB Network Radio hosts hosts Jim Memolo and Rob Dibble last summer that slow starts to the season like Morse had in 2011, after a strong start in Spring Training, are pretty common. "It happens sometimes," Riggleman said:

Jim Riggleman: "A guy has such a good Spring and he almost just feels like, 'I've wasted a lot of hits,' and he talks himself out of getting off to a good start. And [Morse] just couldn't buy a base hit practically the first month of the season, and really lost his playing time to Laynce Nix who was doing a really good job for us. We worked Mike back in there, he was starting to play a little bit, [Adam] LaRoche got hurt, we moved [Morse] to first base and he's been pretty much the same as he was in Spring Training. He's getting a lot of hits for us, he's playing an outstanding first base, and you know, it's well-deserved, he's worked really hard. He's 29-years-old and he's worked a really long time to become a regular in the big leagues and it's happening for him right now."

Morse hit three doubles and nine HR's and had a .364/.421/.818 slash in 21 games and 66 at bats at Spring Training in 2011, then started the year with a .211/.253/.268 line, one double and one home run in 23 games and 79 PA's through March/April. The 1B/OF told MLB Network Radio hosts Mike Ferrin and Cliff Floyd he'd been motivated to make the team in Spring Training, and the slow start was all about getting consistent AB's:

Michael Morse: "In my career, I never had that guaranteed job, so I always had to fight. It was nothing new, so I went into Spring Training with that mentality of, 'I have to make this team.' I had a good Spring. It was my first time playing Opening Day. It was my second time on the squad Opening Day. But I got an opportunity to play, I didn't play much at the beginning. I platooned a lot. At one point I pretty much lost my job to Laynce Nix in the outfield and I was on the bench. And then Adam LaRoche got hurt and I stepped in, played first, and I went off from there."

When LaRoche went down three weeks into May, Morse was already starting to heat up, collecting 10 hits in 25 at bats over the first three weeks of the month. The big slugging first baseman had a .267/.294/.356 line on the year when he took over for LaRoche. Morse was 25 for 62 with five doubles and six home runs in May, putting up a .403/.422/.774 line over 22 games. He'd started the month at .216/.256/.270 and he ended the month with a .301/.329/.504 line. From June through August 27th, when Chris Marrero made his debut, Morse had a .324/.392/.561 slash with 24 doubles and 14 HR's in 73 games and 311 PA's.

Morse finished the year with a stretch of 28 games in which he had a .252/.314/.577 line, six doubles and 10 HR's in 121 plate appearances. When the season ended, Morse had played a career-high 146 games, had a career-high 575 plate appearances and had collected ten more home runs (31 total in 2011) than he'd hit in his previous 685 PA's going back to his MLB debut in 2005 in Seattle. He finished the year at +3.4 WAR.

Morse, given his first real shot at the major league level since his first MLB season, hit 12 doubles and 15 HR's in 98 games and 293 PA's in 2010, finishing the year with a .289/.352/.519 line. He was worth +1.1 WAR in 2010. 248 of those plate appearances, 11 of the doubles, 13 of the HR's and 63 of his 77 hits that season came with him in the outfield, though it was RF in 2010. So maybe it won't matter where Morse plays. All of these samples, in left, right, or at first, are small sample sizes, of course and Morse in 276 games and 923 plate appearances since Washington acquired him in return for Ryan Langerhans on June 28, 2009, has a .295/.353/.536 line with 51 doubles and 49 HR's.

In January the Nationals and Morse avoided arbitration by agreeing on a two-year deal worth $10.5M after he, "... led the Nationals in all three Triple Crown categories (.303 [AVG], 31 homers, 95 RBI) and became just the fourth qualified National to hit .300 since the club came to DC in 2005," as the Nationals noted in a press release on the deal. The Nats believe in Morse and as he told the hosts in his MLB Network Radio interview this winter, he likes the direction he sees the team heading:

Michael Morse: "Mike Rizzo, our GM, he's put this together and people might have thought a couple years ago he might be crazy. But he had a vision and it's all come together. We've got Ryan Zimmerman, he's healthy. Last year he had [an ab tear] early in the year. We were missing [Adam] LaRoche all year. He's going to be healthy. He's a big bat. And we've got Jayson Werth for the next six years. And there's so much upside, also, I'm even leaving out Ian Desmond. And we've got Bryce Harper waiting... But he's part of the young crowd. We've got Danny Espinosa at second base, who's a great infielder, and he has pop. We've got Ian Desmond and Bryce Harper. These are all young guys that are going to be around, and except for Bryce, these guys are getting their feet wet now. So, this team...I mean, people have got to watch out. They're coming. The Nationals are coming."

According to the Bill James' projections, they'll be getting 25 HR's and a .291/.347/.505 line from their left fielder next year. Last year the Nationals got 29 HR's and a .256/.310/.461 slash out of their left fielders. If Morse can keep it up, that will be one spot in the lineup that provides the improvement Washington's expecting from the players already on their roster since they weren't able to add another power bat this winter. Can Michael Morse do it again?

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i think peope are making too big a deal about this morse will continue to be unexposed

Off topic, but guess what team was featured in an article about contenders with depth to trade

This team

"Morse was a different player (offensively) when he was in left field as opposed to first base."

Watch it. I got hoo-rahed, slandered and slammed for pointing this out a few months back. There goes dumb ol’ Whupass…just like Genghis Kahn, or some damn nonsense, I forget how it went. Ain’t worth remembering anyway.

Of course stumbling around out in left field hurt Mike’s hitting last year – and it probably will again in 2012. There’s the vid where he talks about himself – starts off with, “Hi, I’m Mike Morse. I’m an infielder.” Anybody who has ever played the game knows he’s no good in left and he hates it, and not just the glove part – it messes with his mind, and his timing at the plate. I know, I know we got LaRoche and maybe it’ll go OK for a while – but Mike won’t hit like he’s capable of hitting while they got him screwing around in left.

There goes ol’ Whupass again on how well Morse hits if playing LF vs. playing 1st base.
(With all due respect Whup, you don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to this topic.)
The idea that a player will hit significantly better or worse depending on the defensive position they play is, in my opinion, a bunch of shyt (AKA, s**t)
Case in point – Ted Williams. Would he have hit better if he played 1st?
I doubt it would have made much difference at all, mostly because he could not have cared less about defense.
That being said, IMO, he would have hit worse, which is to say, lifetime .343 vs .344

seems pretty compelling: .336/.401/.601 vs .254/.293/.482 last year...

.327/.388/.579 vs .250/.300/.459 career……… He’s an >>>infielder<<<

Della, what do you say?

I will also point out that Morse was already in a slump in August before he shifted back to OF for September

He actually heated up after going back to LF. How does that square with the “he can’t hit in the OF” argument?

This needs to be stressed.

The idea that Morse fell apart the moment that he went to LF is not at all supported by the facts.

To wit:
Aug 7 – Aug 26, MM as 1B: .245/.365/.415, 2 HR,
Aug 26 – Sep 27, MM as LF: .252/.314/.577, 10 HR.

I’ll take that LF production any day of the week.

seems pretty compelling: .336/.401/.601 vs .254/.293/.482 last year...

.327/.388/.579 vs .250/.300/.459 career……… He’s an >>>infielder<<<

Della, what do you say?

Only thing Ted liked about the outfield was it was dull, so gave him time to practice his swing

He threw like a girl and ran like a gooney-bird. Ted Williams lived to hit, period. And he was the best ever.

Which makes for a nice discussion – but perhaps on a different thread. Ted Williams was Ted Williams. Michael Morse is Michael Morse.

If it please the court. This is not pony-league. At this level of competition, every little edge, every little difference is an edge or difference times a thousand. Yer damn right, move a guy – pushing 30 and fighting for a roster-spot – to an unfamiliar defensive pos, and yes, it will affect how he hits. It will affect how he sleeps. It will affect how he eats. He won’t bitch, because he’s proud. But it will distract him and impact his timing concentration and performance at the plate. The numbers speak for themselves, yes? Think not? Hell look. Ghead, rub yer eyes and look. T’ain’t long division.

If counsel does not understand this, then I submit that this court has reached a point where further explanation – if not to say education – is futile.

Prosecution rests.

Isn’t it true that if he played LF he’d have time to practice his crane kick!
Your witness, counselor.

(BTW- I’m all for moving him to 1st, not because I think he’ll hit better, but because he’s a lousy LF’er)

I'm all for it too

#meanslesslaroche

Wut iz dis, some sorta' internecine pissing-contest

among guys all on the same pro-Morse side? Hey, allz I got to say is….

p&c in 10 and a wake-up.

Jeezzzzzzzzzz..

No “money ball” stats from other players are going to prove your point………….this is a personal problem……….LEFT FIELD MESSES WITH MORSE’S HEAD………Got it.

Call me dense,

because I for one haven’t “got it”. It is unclear to me who you are responding to or exactly what it is you mean by your post, but whatever, I’ll bite.
Would it be to much trouble for you if I were to ask you to explain who’s “point” is not going to be proved, what the “personal problem” you are referring to is, and who’s personal is it?

I admire your efforts here, Perry

but some secrets are best left unknown.

There goes old Whupass

Making too big a deal out of extremely small sample sizes, but this time he’s taking Patrick Reddington with him. There could of course be something to this, but given the relatively small sample size it’s just as likely that Morse is able to hit even better because he’s using Dr. Scholl’s inserts this year or can’t hit at all because of Edwin Jackson’s BO than it is that he hits worse while playing LF.

Interesting...

…that after reading an article which quotes two managers and the player saying the position moves are not affecting him and after the 9th paragraph states exactly what you’re saying here about the small sample sizes vs the big picture that you draw the conclusion you do about my thinking on the matter.

Sorry, only skimmed the article

Plus it just sounded funnier using your name. I wouldn’t want the facts to get in the way of making a joke, hope you understand.

Oh yeah, the old small sample size argument...

S’if this was some sort of scientific fishing expedition that could go on into infinity.

Here, let’s take this season by season, shall we – with each season having a finite universe of 162 games. Win 90 games, you’re in the play-offs. Win 80 games, you’re watching the play-offs on TV. Ten games. Six percent of the total played. That’s all. Real simple. A small sample can kill you, because a small percentage swing in the W/L columns – sometimes five games, or fewer – can make all the difference in the world, and alibis do not count, only Ws and Ls.

When opportunities are so limited, you can’t just ’em toss them away – not even a few – and shrug it off as part of a small “sample size.” We are not working out a computer model for predicting global climate change or some damn thing, we are trying to win 90 games of a 162 game schedule.

I want a championship, so we gotta come out hard and bear down every game. I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed about it (Patton line, sorry), or shrugged it off in any way.

In a sense I agree with you

It’s not about small sample sizes. It’s about the facts pointing to almost anything BUT “playing outfield caused Morse’ offense to suffer.”

But you still haven't explained the actual facts.

Namely, Morse got hot BEFORE being getting the first base job, cold BEFORE going back to left, and hot again AFTER moving back.

Not to mention that he didn’t have any trouble hitting in 2010 when he was our right fielder most of his starts.

It’s not an issue. And frankly, if it IS an issue, Rizzo ought to move him ASAP. We don’t need a head case like that.

If Morse keeps his great approach from last year,

specifically, keeping his hands inside the ball and pounding it up the middle, I see no reason why the dude won’t be a good hitter again. He has the raw power for 40 homers easily but I don’t even think he’ll get back to 30 again unless he adds some more loft to his swing, but I’m not holding my breath for that. His .273/.331/.475 ZiPS ‘12 line looks low on the average part but pretty much what I’d expect, unless he did some major tinkering this winter. (hopefully!)

In 2012, given approximately equal ABs, Mike Morse will hit more homers than Prince Fielder

Just you wait.

No he won't.

He just won’t.

Will so

Won’t?
Will
rock-paper-scissors
There, that settles it.
WILL

OK, he MIGHT.

But the overwhelming odds are that he won’t. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but a touch of reality is probably warranted, too.

No he won't,

And even if he would have, you’ve jinxed it now so it will never happen.

I got yer jinx right here

The Norseman don’ care ’bout no jinx. Just you wait.

Saturday March 10 for National Anthem tryouts...

Are the FBb singers ready?

NATIONAL ANTHEM PERFORMERS
The first 90 anthem hopefuls to submit their resume (performance or otherwise) and a recent photo to anthem@nationals.com will be invited to audition live at Nationals Park on Saturday, March 10.

Anthem performers must meet the following prerequisites:
- The anthem should be no longer than 90 seconds
- The anthem must be performed in the traditional style; all auditions must be A cappella
- Groups and instrumentalists are invited to audition as well

These auditions are not open to the public and will take place regardless of weather conditions. For more information, visit nationals.com.

If only someone would put up a fanpost about this :-)
BTW, apparently, it's not a "Crane Kick"

It’s a Samurai Cobra Snake … for the record :-)

I think Morse jut got confused.
Law's list

Keith law ranks the Nats as 21st in the league. Not sure how they got worse after a draft that seemed to replenish everything they lost in that trade. Especially considering Norris was a declining prospect and Peacock really was never considered until his break out year last year.

But whatever.

Yeah I didn't get that.

Harper and Rendon alone are enough to make the system top 15 IMO, if not top 10. Norris was/is a declining prospect and I really like Goodwin and Meyer. I think Purke is the real wild card that could push them into a top 5 slot even after the Gonzales trade, but whatever. Have you ever gone back and looked at organizational rankings after the fact? Not exactly great predictors and at the end it’s all about the top 2 or 3 guys after that it’s mostly pixie dust and trade fodder.

Call me crazy

but I don’t think Keith Law likes Mike Rizzo.

Sometimes I can't help but wonder

Why he seems so down on the Nats in general. Though, to be fair, he is much more cautious on Rendon because of the injury than are other people, and is very down on Purke because of his own injury and mediocre AFL appearances. He also was really high on Norris, who he liked better than Ramos, and also on Cole. And while I’ve never actually read anything he’s written about Meyer, I imagine he could see him more as a reliever because of control issues, and all that goes a long way towards explaining his dropping the system so far after the trade.

argh

Logic. So useless!

Just for fun

2007 Baseball Prospectus Org. Rankings
1. Tampa (Delmon Young, Evan Longoria, Reid Brignac, Jeff Niemmann)
2. Colorado (Tulowitzki, Franklin Morales, Chris Iannetta, Ian Stewart, Dexter Fowler)
3. Anaheim (Brandon Wood, Nick Aidenhart, Eric Aybar, Sean Rodriguez, Hank Conger)
4. Yankees (Phil Hughes, Jose Tabata, Joba Chamberlain, Humberto Sanchez, Dellin Batances)
5. Fodgers (Kershaw, Andy LaRoche, Scott Elbert, James Loney)

So amongst the top five teams there’s three elite players (Longoria, Tulo and Kershaw some average to above average talent (Hughes, Joba) and bunch of never-weres.

Don't agree

Aybar’s been very good on occasion (posting 4+ bWARs twice). Conger’s young and looks like he’ll stick for a while. Aidenhart,… well, that was a tragedy.
All five of the Colorado players have played a lot of time in the Majors and none are due to be retired any time soon. ALL these guys were/are legitimate ML players. That’s more than can be said for most organizations’ top fives, I’d wager.

I see your point

Aybar has been good and Young still holds a lot of promise, but as for Colorado Stewart is pretty much considered a bust at this point, Fowler is on the cusp of being considered one and Iannetta is gone. Brandon Wood was/is a colossal bust and while Conger may stick he looks to be towards the bottom tier or catchers or a backup catcher in the future. Certainly not in that Posey/Mauer/McCann pantheon where he was projected, but also consider this.

Cincinnati was ranked 10th even though their top prospects were Joey Votto, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto, Drew Stubbs and Homer Bailey. Boston was ranked 11th with a system that had Clay Buckholz, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia and Daniel Bard.

Furthermore the Pirates and Giants ranked in back half even though they had systems that included Andrew McCutcheon and Tim Lincecum respectively. Now who wouldn’t trade the entire top five of the Angels, Yankees or Rockies for McCutcheon or Lincecum straight up? Some might even make that deal with Tampa or L.A.’s top five, which was really my point. One player that turns out to be great is better than a whole org full of guys that become average big leaguers.

ya I think sometimes rankings are just to appease baseball nerds like me

or everyone who follows the A’s

Same as Baseball Prospectus and Zips

has anyone done any post season input to see how correct they are (or arent?)

It would be weird to be a player and be relegated to a monte carlo simulation

Law hates the nats

I dont know why, but he is always way more negative on us than anyone else. Another reason I cant stand ESPN

Yeah, well...

I think we over-value our guys way too much. When, as pointed out before, 80% of the supposed top-5 in the organization have not yet played in professional ball, it’s really hard to justify giving the organization a high ranking. Not that rankings matter — AT ALL — but a reasonable requirement to being a top-ranked organization is to actually have players that are clearly ML-ready or very nearly so. I think the Nats have one such player in the minors; and by June they won’t have any.

Im not comparing what he says to what the DC media says

Im comparing it to what Stickels, BA, BP, and other prospect sites say. The fact the he put the Orioles ahead of us is a joke. I have heard people that are not nats fans say Rendon could be #1 overall after Harper. Find me 20 other teams with that star power, and depth at all levels.

I don't agree with Law but he totally looks at some of the Nats prospects...

…differently than most out there. He thinks Meyer is nothing more than a reliever. Purke he doesn’t like. Goodwin won’t hit enough. Rendon is broken goods and on and on…

This being said I agree with RobBobS...we need to see these kids in action before we make a judgement...
Don't feel badly

Fans of virtually every ML team are convinced Law hates them more than any other team. Law thought of Peacock as probably a middle reliever, doesn’t trust Purke or Rendon’s arms at this point, and isn’t sure Espinosa will hit consistently (but he does prefer Espi over Desmond at SS)…

right

So we traded a middle reliever, a six-man in the rotation starter, a catcher with upside and a very good prospect. That means we in theory should be 21st after baseball america ranked us 1 pre-trade.

he certainly does measure it differently.

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