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New Washington Nationals' Reliever Brad Lidge Talks Drew Storen, Jayson Werth On MLB Network Radio.

PHILADELPHIA - OCTOBER 08:  Brad Lidge #54 of the Philadelphia Phillies celebrates the win over the Cincinnati Reds in Game 2 of the NLDS at Citizens Bank Park on October 8, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images)

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over 1 year ago: PHILADELPHIA - OCTOBER 08: Brad Lidge #54 of the Philadelphia Phillies celebrates the win over the Cincinnati Reds in Game 2 of the NLDS at Citizens Bank Park on October 8, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images)

The Washington Nationals signed 35-year-old, 10-year veteran right-handed reliever Brad Lidge to what is reportedly a one-year/$1M dollar deal in late January. Lidge brings with him a resume that includes 223 career saves, 789 career K's (11.95 K/9), 276 career walks (4.18 BB/9), a 3.44 ERA and a 3.23 FIP in 592 G and 594.0 IP. The Houston Astros, who drafted Lidge, dealt the reliever to Philadelphia along with infielder Eric Bruntlett in a November '07 deal that brought infielder Mike Costanzo, outfielder Michael Bourn and RHP Geoff Geary back to Houston. Lidge recorded 100 saves for the Phillies over the next four seasons, striking out 228 batters (10.63 K/9) in 193.0 IP for Philadelphia over the four years he was in their bullpen, but a strained right posterior rotator cuff limited Lidge to just 25 appearances and 19.1 IP in 2011 over which he did, however, have a 1.40 ERA, 2.82 FIP, 13 walks (6.05 BB/9) and 23 K's (10.71 K/9).

D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told ESPN980's The Sports Fix's Thom Loverro and Kevin Sheehan that he thought Lidge was, "... a guy that brings us a vast amount of knowledge about how to pitch back-ends of the game," and would, "be a wealth of information," for the relievers he'll be joining in the bullpen like Drew Storen, Tyler Clippard, Henry Rodriguez and Ryan Mattheus. "He still has swing and miss stuff, "Rizzo said, "His slider is still a big-time swing and miss pitch. His velocity is down from his formidable years, but he's still a big ground ball guy."

Lidge told MLB Network Radio's Inside Pitch hosts Jim Bowden and Casey Stern in an interview this afternoon that he believes the velocity will be back, but he's also made some adjustments since he's changed as a pitcher as he's gotten older...

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"In terms of my stuff," Lidge said, "There's no question, I've had eight surgeries in my career, so you get to a certain point where you throw a ton early in your career and as you keep going, your stuff's probably not going to be quite the same when you get into your mid-30's. I just turned 35, so for me I had to make an adjustment the last couple of years and realize that I'm not going to rush my fastball by as many guys as I used to.

"So, I have gone to my slider more often," the 6'5'', 215 lb pitcher explained, "but it's actually become a pitch for me that I've been able to tinker with quite a bit and throw a couple variations of, one, guys tell me looks like more of a split-finger fastball, and there's a traditional slider and then there's kind of a backdoor slider and there's a few different ways I can throw it so it's become kind of a multitude of pitches for me. All that being said, I still like to rear back and throw my fastball, I just have to be a little more selective of when I'm going to do it and make sure that I locate it a little better than I used to."

As for passing his knowledge on to Nat's closer Drew Storen and the other pitches in the Nationals' pen, Lidge said it was something he looked forward to this Spring. "When I got to the big leagues," with the Astros, the right-hander recalled, "Billy Wagner was already there in Houston and he had probably already had about seven or eight successful years closing, and I kind of looked at him, he was a great mentor for me, and I remember thinking hopefully I'd be lucky to one day look back and have enough saves under my belt where a young closer would want my advice or talk to me as well."

Storen told MLB Network Radio hosts Jim Memolo and Jeff Nelson in an interview this week that he was looking forward to learning from the veteran this Spring. "Having Brad Lidge down there with me," Storen said, "is going to be a big help and probably help me with my approach and how to approach hitters." Lidge too said that's the sort of information he's eager to discuss. "He's already had an outstanding season in the ninth inning," Lidge said today, "And it will be real interesting to see what his mindset is right now and of course, I have no problem and I'm actually looking forward to loaning him my insight on not just closing as a whole, but also individual hitters and how he approaches things and what he's thinking when he's out there."

In explaining how he ended up signing in Washington, the veteran reliever explained that it was actually tough to leave Philadelphia. The Phillies originally told him the door was open for a return, but Lidge decided to look around for a closing job somewhere else in the league and when he didn't find one, he found that the opportunity in Philly was no longer there. "I came back to the Phils," Lidge explained, "And at that point they didn't have a spot left for me. They changed their mind, that can happen in this business, so at that point I went looking for the best spot for me."

"I was preferring to get to a team that I felt was either a playoff caliber team or a team that was on the brink," Lidge said, "And when we talked to the Nationals it became a real good fit," for both the pitcher and his family. "After talking to Jayson Werth for a while, I really like the way the team is going. I think that they have a chance of getting to the playoffs this year and it's going to be an exciting year there."

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Fourteen pitchers?

Six SPs (say again, over):
Strasburg
JZimm
Gio
Lannan
EJax
Wang
Eight inna pen (“wtf, over?”)
Det
Gorzo
Clipp
Storen
Burnett
Rodriquez
Lidge
Mattheus

Never happen. At least two – three’s more like it – will be gone by OD.

+ Stammen?

Other than Mattheus & Burnett, I don’t want to see any of these guys go. And even between those two, I remember seeing the occasional flash of upside in both.

Thank god Slaten isn’t up there anymore, though.

Fuhgettabout Stammen and Matheus - and please do not mention the sumbich Slayton

I think the FO has about had it with Rodriquez too, and it’ll be a make-or-break ST for him. Much as I like him, relief pitchers must throw strikes, if they can do nothing else – and thusfar in his illustrious career, the electrifyin’ Lightning Rod simply has not demonstrated this propensity.

Rodriquez threw more than 9 k/9... that's a lot, fyi
That's as may be

Listen, I loves me some Henry Rodriquez. Always have. But his control is a problem, and if you don’t realize that, then you need to watch more ballgames. Ax me, Rizzo took Henry in trade knowing full well that he’d be a project. I’m saying that it is time that Henry turned the corner – and if he don’t, it’s whack, off wid his head.

Rodriguez has the nastiest stuff in the Nats pen, if not on the entire staff. If think they’ll give him a lot of rope than you suggest and that by all means he’ll be heading north with the team. He’s one of the pitchers I’m most looking forward to watching this year.
If you mean by “off wid his head” they’ll cut him, I think you’ve lost your mind.

Henry has electrifyin’ stuff, no question, and I’m pulling for him too. Always have. But peruse that list of pitchers. Competition is getting warm up in Natstown.

I think there's a guy named Strasburg on the staff, too. His stuff is pretty nasty.
Stephan who? Is that the guy they drafted # a few years back?

Listen, I’m trying to to equate H-Rod with SS in any way other then to suggest that when he’s on his game I think fastball and curve are comparable.

C'mon, SP is a different breed of the species

Like thoroughbred and quarter-horse; you cannot compare them.

It's a decent analogy

But there have been lots of pitchers that have thrived in both roles.

Especially back in the old old days

when there wasn’t a starting rotation, per se. But that’s probably further back than anyone was thinking…

John Smoltz?

Eckersley? Gordon?

That's three

Keep counting. You’ll count all you’ve seen in recent years without running out of fingers, assuming you’re equipped with ten.

Large “sample size,” mind – and I loves me some sample size – what with 350 or so pitchers in MLB for any given year, so a few exceptions simply prove the rule.

Oooh. A challenge!

Charlie Hough
Ryan Dempster
Derek Lowe
Kerry Wood
Kelvim Escobar
Ryan Franklin
Ron Reed
Dustin Hermanson

All with over 50 quality starts, and over 50 saves. And there are still 26 as yet unmentioned.

Don't waste your time, Rob.

You are defending a hypothesis that you know to be false.

Seriously. Please stop it. It’s spring training, my friend, and we’ve more important stuff to think about than the 0.01% of all OKstarters/OKrelievers to worry about.Don’t we?

Just admit it

You challenged me, and I met your challenge.

THEN we can move on…

BTW

If I knew the hypothesis was false, I would not have made it in the first place. I said that there have been lots of pitchers who have done well in both roles. Amassing 50 wins or 50 saves in the bigs makes it likely a pitcher is better than merely “OK”. Doing both makes it very likely.

I agree with you, Whup

But if you look at the comment I was responding to, Perry says “Rodriguez has the nastiest stuff in the Nats pen, if not the entire staff.” It’s that last part of that statement that opened the door to my reply: if you’re gonna talk about the whole staff, you better consider the stuff of one SS.

And hell, Rod might very well indeed have the best stuff of the entire staff

for one inning. You cannot compare this to a starter.

But stay. I will allow Perry to publish his own retractions, if he so desires.

I hear what you're saying, but I'd still take Strasbourg for one inning

over HRod. In that one inning, Strasburg’s stuff, IMO, is qualitatively better (and yes, I’m considering location of the pitches, too, which may not be part of your, or Perry’s, equation. Take away location, I still give Strasburg the advantage, but it’s not clear-cut).

What would happen if a batter went to the plate thinking "I'm taking everything"

If it was Strasburg pitching, 90% of the time he’d strike out. If it was HRod, maybe 60%…? Stuff has, IMO, got to include control.

I watch plenty of ballgames, thanks for assuming I'm talking out of my ass

You said they have to be able to throw strikes, and I responded that he does; of course his control sucks, but that wasn’t the point you made directly, at least. But thanks for assuming I don’t actually watch stuff I opine about

I intended no disrespect, sir

but t’would appear that I did a good job, just the same. A thousand pardons.

Couple of things

They’ll probably go with a 12-man staff; any less has disappeared along with the 250-inning pitcher. Davey has expressed his preference for a left- and right-handed long man; unless Rodriguez (who’s failed at it in the past) or Mattheus fills that role, Stammen probably enters the picture. Detwiler (or Lannan) and Gorzelanny duplicate each other.

I think there’s going to be some tough decisions and trades/DFAs before Opening Day. Rodriguez, Detwiler, and Wang are all out of options; I don’t recall whether Gorzelanny is also out. That means exposure to waivers, and I’d suspect that any of the above exposed would be snapped up.

Tough decisions? Ye' don't say.

We got us some good pitchers. I mean good pitchers. Didn’t happen by accident neither. Y’see, we got us the ’Cat – best pitching coach in baseball.

And we face a problem – the kind of problem ye’ like to have: too many good pitchers, and not enough room on a 25-man roster. How many other teams would love to have that problem? Le’see, how many other teams are there?

Let's see how many of them

are looking both healthy & strong as we roll toward the end of March. With 14 proven arms for 12 spots, starting the season with a couple of guys on the 14-DL wouldn’t be devestating. Plus, I think Mattheus has an option left.

+ Perry?

Didn’t we pick him up for Ballystar? I agree with you, though – a few guys aren’t going to be on OD MLB roster. Burnett, Rodriguez, Mattheus, and Perry all need to show well in ST, and barring injury to an SP, I gotta imagine either Lannan or Det is gone.

Part of the reason they got Perry is for his option, though. Safe to assume he’s on the outside looking in barring some dramatic showings.

Thanks. Didn't know about the option.....

I think that unless they’re blown away by an offer gotta see what they have in Ross.
If they can get a hairy chested sort for Lannan, think that would be a fair trade… anything more in return for him would be gravy, IMO.
But I do think waiting until ST when another team (or knock on wood, the Nats) looses a pitcher due to injury would be the best time to deal
(if and/or when they move The Moose, I’ll miss him… not to mention seeing him mom and pop cheering from the stands)

I would want more than a bench player in return for a 26 year old SP with 3/4 years under 4.00 ERA

FWIW

I do think that stashing Lannan in Syracuse is an option for the Nationals

They’re already paying Maya a couple million a year to pitch there. Given the uncertainty of the rest of the options for the #5 spot, as well as an injury history for Strasburg and Zimmermann, having a proven MLB starter in reserve is an excellent strategy.

They have Stamman, Maya, and Gorzy as contingency. Not a huge drop off from Tje Moose. If they could get a decent return on Lannan, even if it’s “only” a top notch bench player, I say go for it.

A decent return? Sure. But not a bag of baseballs, either

No Cutter Dykstras (etc) please.

Unless he really comes on, Maya is a disaster waiting to happen. Stammen and Gorzelanny have pitched more effectively out of the bullpen than as starters.

I’m not saying a bags of balls, I’m saying somebody that will help the team (AKA, a decent bench player).

Rush to judgement

Let John Lannan fight it out for a roster spot, shall we? Get us some competition up in here. Hah? Six weeks of ST coming up. I see no need to measure Lannan for a pine box just yet.

I’m saying that Lannan (AKA, Moose) MIGHT be a chip that could be traded in for someone who could help the team more than he (Moose) can/will. I say this (hesitatingly I admit), because I think that the Nats have alternatives to (the expensive and iffy effective) Moose (AKA, Lannan) in Gorzo, Mayo, and Stameno, who in my opinion aren’t that big a drop off from him (Moose) in the role of a #5 starter.

Luck

Anybody watching this great new series on HBO?

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