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Former Washington Nationals' GM Weighs In On Prince Fielder Rumors.

ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 14:  Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers looks on against the St. Louis Cardinals during Game Five of the National League Championship Series at Busch Stadium on October 14, 2011 in St Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

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7 months ago: ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 14: Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers looks on against the St. Louis Cardinals during Game Five of the National League Championship Series at Busch Stadium on October 14, 2011 in St Louis, Missouri. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

C'mon? You didn't really think that D.C. GM Mike Rizzo restating his position on the Prince Fielder rumors, (as he did yesterday in Washington Times' writer Amanda Comak's article entitled, "Nats GM Mike Rizzo says nothing has changed with regard to Prince Fielder"), would actually stop the rumors that the Nationals were the frontrunners for Fielder did you? Even though the Nats' general manager told the Washington Times' reporter that he was comfortable going with Adam LaRoche at first for the Nationals in 2012 with Michael Morse available as a backup, and even after he said, "There are a lot of comments that we’re the frontrunners, and I don’t know where that comes from because we haven’t gone beyond where we were at since the winter meetings," the rumors continued today.

ESPN.com's Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) wrote about Washington on Twiiter this morning as if they were still seriously considering adding the hard-hitting 27-year-old slugger...

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"There is great skepticism about a very long-term deal with Fielder in some corners of the Nats' [organization]," Mr. Olney wrote, "Owners' votes count the most, of course." The Chicago Cubs acquisition of 1B Anthony Rizzo in a deal today with San Diego eliminated one more name from the list of rumored suitors for Fielder, leaving Seattle, Texas and Washington on most people's lists. CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) reinforced what others have said when he wrote this morning that the Rangers' interest in Fielder is based on how the negotations with right-hander Yu Darvish play out.

"Rangers still have one eye on Prince," Mr Heyman noted, "but their No. 1 goal is to sign Darvish. If they get Yu, chance for Fielder lessens." In spite of all the Nationals' GM's done to downplay the Nationals' involvement in ongoing negotiations, if the Rangers fall out of the running there won't be many options for Fielder this winter, barring the seemingly inevitable entry of a mystery team into the mix. Recent reports (from anonymous sources, of course) have confirmed long-rumored meetings between Boras, Fielder and the Nationals' owners when the agent and his client traveled to visit interested MLB teams.

In spite of the Nats' GM's denials, players, rival executives and scouts all say the nation's capital is high on the list of potential destinations for Fielder. And now the former Nationals' general manager who hired Mike Rizzo before Rizzo replaced him is saying Washington's deeply involved in negotiations. "He's saying all the right things as a GM," Jim Bowden said on the MLB Network Radio show Inside Pitch, "You've got LaRoche as the first baseman. He signed there as a free agent. He's got another year on the contract. Two things you can't do in his situation. No.1: Raise the expectations for the fans of D.C. that they're getting Fielder, so that you now set them up for a letdown in case you can't afford him and you don't end up getting him and you don't sign him. You want to lower those expectations.

"No.2: If you don't get him, you don't want LaRoche to sit there and say, 'What? You don't like me? You don't care about me?' you know, 'What about me? I signed here to play first base?' So you do that to calm everybody down. You don't want this to be something that's in the media 24/7." (ed. note - "Oops. Sorry.") "Here's the problem," the former Nationals' general manager said, building momentum and getting worked up, "The problem is, they are in serious negotiations with Scott Boras, which they can't deny.

"They have made offers, multiple offers to Prince Fielder, which they cannot deny. They know the difference that he would make in that franchise, making them an instant playoff contender. They know that. Ted Lerner, the owner, is 86-years-old, he wants to win, and he'd like to win now and the Lerner family would like to see him win. Here's the biggest problem: Mike Rizzo's prepared to step up and get this thing done, but this is Ted Lerner's baseball team, and they do everything by a vote with a board of directors and the board of directors are mixed."

They just made a huge 7-year/$126 million dollar investment in Jayson Werth last winter, the former Nationals' GM suggested, and the board is wary of making another long-term commitment, but as the former Nats' GM explains it, "What they have to understand is Fielder's different than Werth. Werth was a big gamble because of age. He was a big gamble because of ballpark. He was a big gamble because of health and the fact that he wasn't the type of player that a Prince Fielder is, and that's the difference. And if you're going to sit there and give seven years to Werth, you certainly have to step up and give eight years to Prince Fielder."

Bowden, citing the Cubs' deal for the young first baseman, Anthony Rizzo, says he's crossed Chicago off his list and says he firmly believes that the Washington Nationals are, "... now the leaders and the frontrunners to get [Fielder]." Which is the same thing that Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writer Tom Haudricourt started the week reporting, prompting the questions to D.C. GM Mike Rizzo, who once again issued the same denials he has all winter...

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What kind of investor

gets scared off of investing following one investment that looks like it could possibly end up being a bad investment?

What? You don't consider Werth's deal a complete and utter failure?

I wish I could use sarcasm font in the subject line.

zzzZZZzzz

zzz … snort Hm wha? Signed yet? No? Ah well, thatzzzzz … zzzZZZzzz

I suggest we start a new Twit(ter) rumor

that Prince has decided to follow his father’s footsteps and play in Japan for a year.

"Former Nat's GM weighs in...."

Enuff fat jokes, huh? Haters.

This is one of those things

These reporters (and bowden) are something else. They “Can’t be wrong” because of their position. Ugh the humanity.

Sigh

Reading Bowden’s rant commentary, he was starting to blur with another former Washington personage.

I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department

Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy, (R-WISC)

I’m obviously staying too late at work …

Bowden...........

said nothing incorrect except “8 years”.

I am sure the NATS are trying to work out a 5 year. Boras wants that 6th………….7or8 on this out of shape guy is absurd. It’s not happening.

FWIW

I can easily imagine the internal dynamics: Mark is the effective decision maker – he’s keenly aware that pappy Ted ponied up, wants a ring, and it’s basically his bucket and his loyal son is bound and determined to fill that bucket. Meantime, he trusts Rizzo, who is persistently whispering in his ear "he’s worth no more than 5 years, everything else is downside risk’.

Now, step back and realize that the entire core competency of the family enterprise is long-term financial capitalization – and they’re notably good at it.

All in all, a tough call. Given the givens, my hunch is Mark ultimately makes a good, tough decision. As fans, we live with it one way; as owners, they live with it in more ways.

They became billionaires by believing in the growth of the Northern virginia market, they could do the same for DC

And thus my trust in the final decision

No guarantees, but track records are reasonably predictive.

The thought of warterfront bars where the gravel company s makes me quite excited.
Though I'm the last to quiblle with postprandial libations,

as someone whose greatest single sports thrill was Maz’s ‘60 shot, I’d just like to have another in my own little bucket.

I do not believe any establishments are being planned be built in place of the gravel company…..I am pretty sure the development of that area will simply be a beautiful park with pier.

A pop or three on the fantail is as good as any other
Bowden...[SPIT!]

That is all.

This whole Fielder drama is like watching a chess match

But you can only see two or three pieces on one side of the board. And you can’t see any of the pieces on the other side.

Also, there’s about four or five people playing all at once.

Err…something like that…

Guys..

I’m hearing on Twitter that Cecil Fielder says he thinks his Son is going to the Nats!! please be truee

Boara$$ has no shame

Shoved a cell-phone into papa Fielder’s hand…

GUYS

DON’T GET EXCITED YET BUT I AM FOR U GUYS IN CASE IT’S FALSE BUT on mlbreport they interviewed his Father for ten mins and he said he’s basically going to Nats…..whats everyone think

Just listening to interview he did in Toronto in which he talked about the same thing...

Well, I was watching the HS All-Star Football Game last night, and the top recruit playing made his on television commitment to play for Nick Saban and the Alabama Crimson Tide…..Mommy, on the other hand, had different thoughts, saying he should go play for LSWho! I would venture to bet that the kid eventually signs his LOI with LSWho instead of Alabama. Cecil and Prince may have totally different mindsets, but in this case, Prince is a grown man and can tell daddy to pound sand. The bottom line, is that I do not think it really matters what anyone says, until Prince signs that dotted line

That's actually what Cecil said, it's all talk until someone gives him a deal...

Said he’d like to see him in Toronto, mentioned Nats, Rangers as teams Prince could join and make competitive sooner than later. That’s all he said, I’d bet he just says the same in the interview that took place tonight.

It's hype

Boara$$ hype, pure and simple. Ax me, he can go back to Milwaukee. We’ll be better off without some fat man named “Prince” as the center of our universe. But that’s just me.

He isn't estranged from his Dad still?

Thought they weren’t on speaking terms.

Says they are working on it, do talk. Cecil discussed personal issues a little...
Are We Still Playing The Guessing Game?

Of when he will announce a decision? If so, my prediction is January 16, at 6:01pm, and the decision will be the Washington Nationals; 8 Years, 168mil.

No, Ben went to Minnesota ...

bada-bing!

Actually I miss Goessling; Kerzel is clearly an O’d guy being used as a placeholder.

Yeah…..I miss Goessling also. Wonder if he is doing his “Goessling Game” in MN?

Perhaps I'm naive,

but I fail to see any relevance to the Cecil-Prince relationship. The far more pregnant relationship is the Ted-Mark relationship. Cecil and Prince can kibbitz all they want, but nothing happens until Ted and Mark get things straight (at least from the Nats perspective).

While the prospect of PF manning first could make 2012 very, very interesting for Nats Nation, I cannot get past the notion that 275+ pound baseball players — like NFL running backs — do not age well. Moreover, on the whole is he so much of an upgrade over #25 to warrant the impact that he will have on the team’s roster (finances and flexibility)? Just sayin . . .

“Upgrade” is not really what gets the fans excited…..what is exciting, is having both Fielder AND Morse in the lineup. Any combination of Zim, Prince, Werth and Morse is pretty daunting….especially when added with the other pieces that may ALSO include Harper.

I think 25 is Laroche's number,

and, yes, Fielder is a huge upgrade over LaRoche. Probably 4 wins worth, which for the Nationals probably means the difference between playoff contention and “a good year”.

Ooooops…….you are absolutely correct. I didn’t even consider the actual number, my assumption was Morse since that is the person everyone says we would be “upgrading”. However, you have always been correct Rob….it is not an “upgrade” over Morse, it is a compliment to him by having Fielder. And you are correct again….HUGE upgrade over LaRoche. Thanks for pointing out my error.

I honestly think Prince makes the whole line-up better...

and that no one needs him more than Werth.

First warning

Please do not refer to Rob by his given name.
Other acceptable appellations:
My Lord, Your Highness,…

What the...?

No disrespect at all toward you intended on my part… Just playing

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