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7 months ago: ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 13: (L-R) Albert Pujols #5 of the St. Louis Cardinals and Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers stand at first base during Game 4 of the National League Championship Series at Busch Stadium on October 13, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)
September/October: It's been an underlying thread in reports on the Washington Nationals' winter plans since before the 2011 season even ended. ESPN.com's Jayson Stark, in a September 9th edition of his "Rumblings and Grumblings" column wrote that those, "... who have concluded that the Nationals won't have any interest in," either of the big free agent first baseman on the market, Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder, "... just because of the emergence of Mike Morse and the second guaranteed year of Adam LaRoche's contract, may be underestimating Rizzo's drive to build something great."
"'Without discussing either of the two monster free-agent first basemen (Pujols and Prince Fielder) by name," Mr. Stark wrote, the Nats' GM told the ESPN writer first base wasn't the biggest need for the Nationals, "'... but you never want to say never,'" Rizzo said, "'You never know.'" "The Nats believe they are on the verge of being a winner and can become a big-market team if they are regular contenders," the New York Post's Joel Sherman wrote in an October 14th article. Though the idea of the Nats pursuing CC Sabathia was the focus of the article, the New York Newsday writer concluded his thoughts on the Nationals by writing that, "... there is an expectation that Washington's big money this offseason is targeted toward Prince Fielder."

• November: Publicly, at least, the Nationals continued to dismiss the idea of pursuing a big bat at first. LaRoche, however, told MLB.com's Bill Ladson at the time, in an article entitled, "LaRoche getting closer to baseball activities", that,"... the Nationals didn't promise that he would play every day at the position next season." In a late October interview with the D.C. press corps, Rizzo spoke to reporters about LaRoche as if he'd be the starting first baseman in 2012. "[LaRoche] started throwing just last week," Rizzo said, "He will be [on] a throwing program and building up to prepare for Spring Training, and he should be full go at Spring Training is the word that I got from not only from Adam but from our medical staff."
• December: A month ago, however, both FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal and Jon Morosi placed Washington on a list of teams with interest in Prince Fielder. "Fielder, 27, is the Nationals’ primary target, at least among offensive players," Mr. Rosenthal wrote in an article entitled, "MLB: Nats show interest in Fielder, Cespedes." Fielder, "... has been pursued by a group believed to include the Cubs, Nationals, Rangers and Mariners," Mr. Morosi wrote. By mid-December, FOXSports.com's Mr. Rosenthal had come to the conclusion that the race for Fielder was down to Seattle and Chicago (NL). However, "Some executives still expect Fielder to hear from the Nationals," Mr. Rosenthal wrote in an article entitled, "Fielder should be Cubs' player to lose", before adding that the Nats have been, "the preferred ATM of the Scott Boras Corporation in recent years."
In a press conference after Washington acquired left-hander Gio Gonzalez from the Oakland A's, the Nationals' GM said, "That is correct," when asked if LaRoche would be at first base for the Nats in 2012. The general manager said the team was expecting to improve upon the team's 80-81 2011 season even without the addition of a big name free agent. "Hopefully Ryan Zimmerman is there for the full complement of games," Rizzo said, "We hope that Adam LaRoche is there and has a typical Adam LaRoche season. We hope that Jayson Werth has a typical Jayson Werth season."
But, the D.C. GM added, the Nats are still keeping an open mind, and, "... if something bigger that's acquire-able is something that helps our ballclub and that fits for us in the long-term we'll certainly look into doing something like that." The rumors persisted, and Rizzo once again addressed them in an MLB Network Radio interview with Mike Ferrin. "Adam LaRoche is under contract for us," Rizzo said, "We're paying him a lot of money to play first base for us next year,":
"We feel that he's going to have a bounce-back season. We just want him to have his career norms, .265 [AVG], 25 [HR's], 85-100 RBI's and play great defense. We feel that his shoulder is rehabbed. He's 100% and talking to him just recently, he feels great and he's ready to contribute [for] us in 2012. As far as, 'Are we going to dabble our toe in that water [Fielder],' those are decisions that we make early on in the process and we've more or less decided that Adam [LaRoche] is going to be our first baseman, unless something extraordinary, out of the ordinary happened that's how we're going to go to Spring Training."
• December/January: The continued presence of the caveats in the Nats' GM's statements led many to believe pursuing Prince was still a possibility. "There is a broad assumption among a lot of baseball executives that eventually, Prince Fielder's most attractive offer will come from the Nationals," ESPN.com's Buster Olney in a late-December article. "Last spring, we wrote about Fielder and Washington," Boston Globe writer Nick Cafardo wrote this past Sunday, "and there were a lot of denials over the months that followed. Now we’re back to Washington being in the lead for him."
An unidentified National told CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman last week that the Nationals were in the mix for Fielder. Baltimore Sun writer Dan Connolly reported that a source told him Prince Fielder and Scott Boras had visited the D.C./Baltimore area during their recent tour of prospective suitors. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter Tom Haudricourt wrote Monday that, "An MLB official told me over the weekend that word is spreading in the industry that the Washington Nationals have emerged as a favorite to sign free-agent first baseman Prince Fielder."
Tuesday afternoon, MLB.com writer Bill Ladson too wrote, in an article entitled, "Nats meet with Boras, in running to sign Prince", that, "The Nationals are in the Prince Fielder sweepstakes." Washington was one stop on their recent tour. Mr. Ladson wrote that, "... ownership recently visited with Fielder's agent, Scott Boras, in the nation's capital." Fielder's agent declined to comment on the report and wouldn't confirm or deny the identities of any of the teams he and his client visited. LaRoche, asked about the rumors in an article entitled, "LaRoche uncertain about future in Washington", told MLB.com's Mr. Ladson he'd heard the chatter and, "If it does [happen] and I need to move on,":
"Hey, it's a business move. They are trying to put the best possible team on the field. I think they feel like their time is now to get to the top of the division. Hopefully, I'll be a part of it. If not, that's life."
FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, four months after ESPN.com's Jayson Stark said the same, dismissed the idea that LaRoche and the $9M he's owed this year would stop the Nationals' pursuit of Fielder as "silliness", writing in an article this past Monday entitled, "Money no issue as Nats pursue Fielder", that the Nats' tv revenue from MASN is expected to, "double, triple or more," in the near future, providing Washington with all the money they'd need to sign Fielder. Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell, however, wrote in a chat yesterday that he wasn't so sure the Nats' owners would spend money they think they'll have soon:
"The Lerners leery are of spending before the revenue is actually in hand. They seldom speculate on what is 'probably' going to happen __with more $ from MASN and more attendance. They have to see it first."
You'll forgive Nats fans and writers covering the team if they're wary, or if they take a wait and see approach in spite of all the rumors from baseball writers outside the nation's capital. The Nationals were "in the mix" for big name free agents like Mark Teixeira and Cliff Lee, reportedly, before they signed elsewhere, and in the case of the one big free agent they actually signed, the Nationals were under the radar as a suitor until just before Jayson Werth agreed to a 7-year/$126 million dollar deal. All this build-up seems like a set-up for a letdown.
• LINK: SB Nation's Baseball Nation: "Who's The Best Fit For Prince Fielder?" - Marc Normandin
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I just read this !!!
cnichols14
Source? RT @ricandersen: Source tells me the Nationals are signing Prince Fielder; 7 years at 23 million/year, plus incentives. #
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
Hmmmmmmmmmmm..................
Radtown - January 4, 2012
Looking into that.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Patrick
NationalsDSP
According to my source, @ricandersen is simply a fan and source would be “dumbfounded” if he were in position to break ANY news. #Nats
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
Sorry, I read and posted w/o knowing better...
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
No worries...that's what the comments section is for. Speculatin'...
talking to one or two other people right now…No one’s shot it down yet, but could just be because no one knows who Mr. Andersen is, or whether he might actually be able to know such things.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Well, this has gotten my blood rushing at the thought...
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
Yup, but my general rule is if MLBTR dosent have it up, its not a good source
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
That's where I looked a little to late...
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
[throws JINXFAQ at Mister Ric]
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Ok, everyone, lets forget that this rumour is most likely false. What does everyone think of the terms?
Doncosmic - January 4, 2012
too much, too soon..
dc Roach - January 4, 2012
7 Years at 23mil per, plus incentives? 161mil, with incentives to do well? I’d say that would be a steal. I would think 99% of all Nats fans would be disappointed if the Nats did not close on a deal like that.
sullyzz - January 4, 2012
Well there are his 15 minutes of fame
Benson L - January 4, 2012
Mr.Andersen? Are we back in the matrix?
Berndaddy - January 4, 2012
In other epic news
According to MLBTR, Chad Gaudin has signed a minor league deal with the Marlins.
[Insert punch line here]
d_c_guy - January 4, 2012
+ Nats signed former MTV star Dan Cortese?
Yes, I’m lifting hours-old Twitter jokes…
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
I loved him on Seinfeld.
Doncosmic - January 4, 2012
and more former Nats news
•The Pirates announced that they signed right-hander Logan Kensing to a minor league deal that includes an invitation to Spring Training. The 29-year-old spent the 2011 campaign with the Yankees’ top affiliate after recovering from elbow surgery in 2010
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
That's one name I would have forgotten on that "Name all the Nationals" quiz that was in the FanShots.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
I forgot most of them from the RFK days
Guillen, Johnson, Vido, Soriano, and Byrd(was he on the list). I still have my Jose Vidro jersey, although it is a little small
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
I still have Vidro, Orlando Cabrera, Livan and Vladi Expos name and # t's...
So sad.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Brings a tear to the eye...
Picturing the LarryWalker-Grissom-Vladi Outfield….
BloggerVance - January 4, 2012 via mobile
[imagines Wilkerson in center]
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012 via mobile
I loved Wilkerson
also great news for a great guy, Hope to see Brian make it to the majors some day.
•The Reds signed catchers Brian Esposito and Brian Peacock to minor league deals, tweets Matt Eddy of Baseball America.
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
Got Wilk?
d_c_guy - January 4, 2012
Still giggle when I remember the days of calling Dunn the Bigger Wilkerson...
#strikeoutmachines ;(
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012 via mobile
Just read that Zambrano is close to joining the Marlins...
who’s next, Milton Bradley?
mstomper - January 4, 2012
Scooped! Well played, mstomper!
d_c_guy - January 4, 2012
Guess that means...
JavyVazquez really Is retiring…
BloggerVance - January 4, 2012 via mobile
MLBTR is reporting that the Marlins are acquiring Carlos Zambrano
Although they aren’t sure of the terms yet. Apparently the Marlins are going for the “congeniality” award with Ozzie Guillen, Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes and Zambrano.
Does raise their talent level a bit, at least until Zambrano and Guillen kill each other.
d_c_guy - January 4, 2012
Ha ha
Zambrano and Guillen are gonna be fun to watch
akb630 - January 4, 2012
I like that they mention his vesting option
He has to finish top four in the CY Young next year. neeeeever happening.
Bsullivan - January 4, 2012
He'd be top 4 in the Nats rotation, but probably not by much.
Doncosmic - January 4, 2012
Cant wait to see this
3 way on field brawl between Hanley, Zambrano and Ozzie… book it.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
While Reyes limps off injured
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
Book that too.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
Just wating for them to sign Elijah Dukes
jeff550 - January 4, 2012
Man, what a clubhouse...
Wouldnt be a dull moment. Just add Tony Plush and stand back and let the flames do the rest.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
Down side to this trade:
the Marlins are getting rid of Volstad, the only pitcher they had who Nats fans could reliably count on to beat.
RobBobS - January 5, 2012
Werth vs Volstad: 3 for 33, 1 BB, 12 K's...
Werth vs Zambrano: 2 for 7, 1 BB, 2 K’s…
Patrick Reddington - January 5, 2012
-10 for SSS
jbg2772 - January 5, 2012
If anyone could do it...
I’m sure Werth could turn 2 for 7, 1BB, and 2 K’s into 3 for 33, 1 BB, and 12 K’s.
ricksnats - January 5, 2012
I take the rumors fake
We sign Prince? :ol
…
dang youngins
Sportzxpert - January 4, 2012 via Android app
Appears to have been fake, no comment at all...
…from anyone on that report for several hours now.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012 via mobile
Which rumors? That we signed him, or that we are likely to sign him?
akb630 - January 4, 2012
See Tweet at top of discussion.
I don’t even want to repost it, cause it’s already linking here on Google when people search for it.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Wonder if the guy just threw out some numbers,
thinking that if by some miracle they turned out to be correct he’d be able to say that he scooped everyone. I wouldn’t think he’d sign for less per year than Pujols. My guess is that if they sign him it’s five years for 130M.
mstomper - January 4, 2012
In his new video, Rosenthal just guessed Prince would get 8-years/$200M from someone...
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
thats alot of dough
i can see 200 mil. man as an important milestone
Bsullivan - January 4, 2012
Signing him til 35 scares me...
I just think an AL team would do that first, but no one seems to be in except Seattle. Rangers’ GM just said they’re not interested again, but so did Rizzo of course.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Rangers won't sign Fielder
If they sign Darvish, they won’t sign Fielder. Plus, they like Mitch Moreland at first base.
akb630 - January 4, 2012
Exactly what he said.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
They got 2 weeks to sign Darvish.
What if they can’t sign him? Is Scott Boras Corporation and Prince Fielder waiting to see?
HG_VA - January 4, 2012
That's what writers who have talked about that are saying yes.
Rangers saying publicly they’re concentrated on Darvish and fine with Moreland at first.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Seems like a big risk for Fielder,
Losing the Rangers would be a major blow to his creditability of signing elsewhere. The Cubs, Jays, or Mariners are all a ways away from contending.
chubias - January 4, 2012
im thinking there would be an early release clause for an NL team
Something where he can opt out at about 31-32 and go FA again. Wouldnt really ease the risk on a NL team but im expecting a CC-like clause.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
I would give that clause up in heartbeat if it saved serious long-term dough.
chubias - January 4, 2012
I too
But I think this is one of those things that’s more in the favor of the player (it’s a player clause after all). So if he does well – he cashes in and goes back to FA and gets a longer/more dough contract. If he tanks – he stays put. But the Nats could get lucky – Prince does well, goes back to FA and we free up payroll in the years we need to resign Stras… well that’s my thinking if im Rizzo/Lerner.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
Yeah, I think it is the sort of thing that could be useful, but we should only shoulder that liability if he is willing to give an overall discount.
More I am worried about the face-saving aspect of the Prince Fielder signing, because I think the Angels gave Pujols a terrible contract. I worry that Fielder will need to find some way to spin that his contract is better.
chubias - January 5, 2012
My SS
The Herndon Kid - January 4, 2012 via mobile
My source tells me that the Nats are going to resign Matt Stared
The Herndon Kid - January 4, 2012 via mobile
Ugghhhhh
I hate my iPhone. I give up on my most likely stupid joke.
The Herndon Kid - January 4, 2012 via mobile
It was a valiant effort
akb630 - January 4, 2012
+10 points for effort.
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Can I cash in my points for fabulous FBb prizes?
Maybe a commemorative WPA graph from Jason Marquis’ last game before the loose bodies were found?
The Herndon Kid - January 4, 2012 via mobile
For Federal Baseball t-shirts...maybe.
Soon-ish…
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Id love to see a WPA graph on a T-shirt
Preferrably one of Straburgs games.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
I think the autocorrect makes it funnier.
Doncosmic - January 4, 2012
Ha true
akb630 - January 4, 2012
Where would LaRoche go? I’d much rather have another starting pitcher.
TradeAndruw - January 4, 2012
LaRoche can go to Japan for all I care.
Doncosmic - January 4, 2012
He’s worth, say, 2 WAR. Fielder is around 4 or 5. This signing would be retarded.
The Big Yak - January 4, 2012
Two WAR?
Unlikely. And Fielder’s more like a 5-6 WAR. And those wins may well be just what the Nats need to reach the playoffs.
RobBobS - January 4, 2012
likely...
LaRoche reached 2 WAR in 3 of 6 seasons, Fielder reached 6 WAR in 1 of 6 seasons… so you’re looking at around $3mil per extra win for as long as Fielder holds up. And yes, those few wins may well be just what the Nats need. But it’s not just about WAR. Fielder brings more fans, more excitement, more people everywhere talking Nats. You pay for that. I like LaRoche. I’m excited for Fielder.
ParkShark - January 4, 2012
LaRoche has reached 2+ bWAR ONCE in his career,
6 years ago.
Fielder has exceeded 5 bWAR twice in the last three years.
RobBobS - January 4, 2012
...so, essentially,
what you just said.
RobBobS - January 4, 2012
Rob, let's not point out that those were the only times he did so.
And that his other seasons were 2.7, 2.1, 3.8, and -.5. Fielder is hardly a lock for 5-6 WAR.
chubias - January 4, 2012
He may not be a lock, per se,
but his overall career track points to him having an All-Star worthy season again.
RobBobS - January 4, 2012
Or his overall career track points to having a bad year like every other even number year.
The highest WAR Fielder has ever posted in an even number year is 2.7. Now, obviously the whether the year is even or odd does not affect Fielder, but perhaps he is the kind of player that goes through up years and down years. Perhaps 2010 was an outlier, and Fielder hadn’t found his pace until 2009.
chubias - January 4, 2012
what we dont want is an Adam Dunn type of year...
Mezza - January 4, 2012
In fairness, it can happen to anyone.
Werth posted three seasons of 5 WAR in Philly.
chubias - January 4, 2012
I actually think that LaRoche to the Rangers would be a possibility
They could use the glove and a LH bat there.
d_c_guy - January 4, 2012
Maybe they would send us a CF back? They have several to spare.
chubias - January 4, 2012
I think for LaRoche
We’d be sending them a CF…
Mezza - January 4, 2012
Mitch Moreland, their firstbaseman, is LH.
jimmylauderdale - January 4, 2012
But is, by most accounts, one lousy defender
With underwhelming offensive numbers (career OPS+ 98 to 112 for LaRoche), although Moreland is younger. My point is that a healthy LaRoche would actually be an upgrade for them.
d_c_guy - January 5, 2012
I'm getting so fusterated
I can’t take the mind games lol with signing Prince or not..honestly I feel like they have no suitors that is appealing as a team as the Nats..forget Texas..Cubs?..Blue jays?..don’t think so..possible..the only other team that could sign him IMHO is Dodgers..what if the new ownership has a boatload of cash and use it towards Prince..I’m starting to not believe any rumors about the Nats and Prince..after what Stan said about Boras..I’m actually extremely bummed hearing him express his opinions
Sportzxpert - January 4, 2012 via Android app
Dodgers are being sold.
The deadline to submit opening bids for the Dodgers was recently extended to January 23rd. They may not be under new ownership until April. I can’t see Prince waiting that long.
I don’t know if it going to be hours, days, or weeks before he signs. I don’t think he going to wait months.
HG_VA - January 4, 2012
ahh
Good :j one less team..
Sportzxpert - January 4, 2012 via Android app
I'm getting ill
am I the only one who’s been on his phone relentlessly for news about Prince coming to town? its got pretty bad
Sportzxpert - January 4, 2012 via Android app
You are not the only one...
I’m sleeping strategically a few hours at a time just in case the news breaks…
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
Sleep
Overrated and for the weak. The FB news bot is alive and well.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
This robot runs on caffeine...
Patrick Reddington - January 4, 2012
You should have taken it in shifts… need a newsroom-like shift work.
Mezza - January 4, 2012
Thanks
Thank You.Patrick.Reddington..u rock…
Sportzxpert - January 5, 2012 via Android app
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