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Washington Nationals Sunday Rumor Roundup: Prince Fielder Chatter.

Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers waits for someone to pick him. The Rangers? Nationals? Dodgers? Who's going to step up and sign the 27-year-old slugger? (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

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Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers waits for someone to pick him. The Rangers? Nationals? Dodgers? Who's going to step up and sign the 27-year-old slugger? (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

Fielder And The Dodgers?: So are the Los Angeles Dodgers officially the "mystery team" in the Prince Fielder field? Between LA Times' writer T.J. Simers' article last night entitled, "Want to boost the value of the Dodgers? Sign Prince Fielder", and New York Post writer Joel Sherman's (@JoelSherman1) tweet following last night's BBWAA dinner in which he wrote that a, "... surprising number of execs think #Dodgers will ultimately be in play for Prince Fielder," the possibility of the Dodgers' new owners, whoever they might be, making a play for (or maybe inheriting) the 27-year-old free agent first baseman is suddenly being considered. The first round of bids for the Dodgers will be submitted on Monday, and with the soon-to-be former Milwaukee Brewers' slugger still on the market the baseball world's wondering if LA might be in play?

Star-divide

MLB Network Radio host and former Nats' GM Jim Bowden talked about the Dodgers as a dark horse candidate a few weeks back, explaining on the show "Inside Pitch," that, "The only team that I know of that legitimately is still left on the table, albeit [at] much less than the asking price, is the Washington Nationals." "To me," the former MLB executive continued, "the Washington Nationals have a very unique and clear opportunity right now, because I'm not sure they're going to get any real competitiveness from anyone else out there unless the Dodgers were to get sold."

Bowden's comments came shortly after an MLB.com article entitled, "Boras: Prince will sign before spring's first pitch", by Barry Bloom came out quoting Fielder's agent Scott Boras explaining why it was taking so long to find a home for his biggest remaining unsigned client. "'Certainly we're going to have him signed well in advance of Spring Training,'" Boras was quoted stating in the article. Bowden said at the time that he thought Boras' comments "were a pretty loud statement" that LA was eliminated as a possibility. "If you're going to make that position," that you wanted a deal done before Spring Training starts, "then you're not using [the Dodgers] as leverage, so I don't think the new owners of LA are going to get a shot. It sounds to me like, for him to make a comment like that, certainly it gives them a month and a half, so certainly it gives them plenty of time, but I also think he feels pretty comfortable what's on the table right now is close to getting a deal done.

"He's not the kind of agent that ever wants to put a time frame [on negotiations]," Bowden argued, "He likes time to be on his side, and for him to actually, almost put a deadline on there is very unlike Scott Boras, which leads me to believe that he's got something on the table that's close enough to get it done."

As a Reuters/Chicago Tribune article entitled, "The Los Angeles Dodgers' scramble begins", by Sue Zeidler and Tom Hals this afternoon points out, MLB Commisioner Bud Selig said earlier this winter that, "... he was counting on the bankrupt team to be sold by April 30," though the ownership situation could, of course, be resolved sooner than that. LA Times' writer T.J. Simers' article last night, as the title hints, suggests that soon-to-be former Dodgers' owner Frank McCourt would have to sign Fielder as a parting gift to Los Angeles' baseball fans and a way to increase the value of the franchise for its future owners.

Scott Boras stressed on Saturday, in a New York Times' article by Tyler Kepner entitled, "Fielder’s Options Are as Narrow as His Talent Is Vast", that with a unique talent like Prince Fielder, the, "'... traditional negotiation periods are not relevant,'" and he pointed out that, "'... the timing of the negotiations should not create any inferences, positive or negative, about the status or value of Prince Fielder.'" Mr. Kepner listed the Dodgers as one of eight teams (along with the Angels, Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, White Sox, Cubs and Mets) that he thought were out of the market this winter. The Dodgers in particular, he wrote, were, "'trapped in financial purgatory,'" and Boras talked in the article about Fielder's limited market as an opportunity for a different team than the usual suspects to add a game-changing bat:

"'It’s a rare moment of opportunity for teams, because there are normally eight clubs or so that are pursuing a young superstar player,' Boras said. 'This is an opportunity for clubs that are outside of those eight to bring that type of player to their city.'"

Fielder And the Nats?: In considering the Nationals as a possibility, the NY Times' Mr. Kepner asked why, "if [the Nationals] were so desperate for Fielder, wouldn’t they have met his demands by now?" That's at least different than the "If Fielder wanted to play in Washington, why hasn't he taken the deal?" chatter. Boston Globe writer Nick Cafardo wrote this morning, in his "Sunday Baseball Notes" column that the fact that Fielder was unsigned was the biggest story of the winter. The big question, according to Mr. Cafardo, is, "Who will give Fielder seven years?":

"One AL East GM thinks it comes down to the Rangers and Nationals, with the Brewers and Cubs taking a shot if he settles for a one-year deal and elects to become a free agent again."

The idea of Fielder accepting a shorter deal so he could become a free agent again in a few years came up earlier this winter and it was shot down by Scott Boras who told ESPNChicago.com's Bruce Levine, "'It appears some baseball people are just bored. That's when you hear ideas like that floated.'" Los Angeles Times' Dodgers beat writer Bill Shaikin too (@BillShaikin) wrote on Twitter that he'd heard that the, "... Brewers invited Fielder to return for 1 year so as to get mega-deal from new Dodgers owner next winter. Boras showed no interest." Could the Rangers or Nationals get a deal done if they were willing to go to seven years as Mr. Cafardo suggests?

• MLB Network Radio Fielder Chatter:

ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick made an appearance on MLB Network Radio this afternoon talking with "Hot Stove" hosts Jim Bowden and Jeff Rickard. Asked what he was hearing about Fielder, Mr. Crasnick said he's hearing from team sources that Scott Boras has "almost probably" given up on the idea of a 10-year/$200 million dollar deal, "So, you're hearing a lot more buzz about how maybe he tries to do some sort of shorter deal, you know a 5-6 year deal with a high AAV and giving Prince an opt-out three years into it so he can go back on the market."

Commenting on the Fielder market later during the show, Jim Bowden explained that he continues to hear that the Washington Nationals have the best offer on the table for Fielder. "The problem is, it's nowhere near what Scott Boras was hoping for or what he wants. That's a problem. So now, what he does in a situation like this, he circles back to every single team and maybe opens up opportunities that had been closed." Boras, the former GM suggests, "Has to look at this and say, 'OK, I'm not going to get ten or nine years, and what I'm looking at [on] the table for seven or eight, the AAV isn't high enough.' He's looking back at it going, 'You know what, maybe I should take a five-year deal and get an opt-out after three.'"

"I think he wants the long-term deal with the no-trade, with the opt-out, which gives him his cake and eat it too," Bowden said, "And now the question is will somebody do that?" The Rangers have said all the right things since signing Darvish, with Texas' ownership saying it was unlikely they'd sign Fielder to avoid stirring up the fan base and saying they want to lock up Josh Hamilton instead, but, the former MLB executive said, "Where there's smoke, there's fire, there's smoke."

Bowden, however, also asked former Washington Senator and former Rangers' GM Tom Grieve what he thought about Fielder ending up in Texas, and Mr. Grieve said, "My gut feeling tells me, it's not going to happen,":

"The Rangers have increased their salaries almost double in the last two or three years, they're up around $120 million now, and you know, with Darvish and with the guys that they've got, with Hamilton's contract up, [Ian] Kinsler's contract's going to be up, they want to sign these guys long-term. [Nelson] Cruz is going to get a big raise. [Mike] Napoli is going to get a big raise, they want to sign him. I think with the guys they've got internally that have led them to the World Series the last couple of years, I think they try to keep their own guys. It could happen, if the price comes down, the years come down, but if it's eight or ten years and $150-$200 million, I don't see it."

So there you have it, right back where we started, the Rangers and Nationals seemingly alone in the mix and Boras and Fielder waiting for the best possible offer...and waiting...

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On the final day of the Venezuelan League's round robin tournament, with a threeway tie for second.........

Jesus Flores’ Navigators will play the second of two games as a visitor (Sailors vs Sharks, as it should be…) after winning the first against the Caribes, 6-5 in 11 innings…..

Go Jesus Go!!!
Jesus available off the bench in the second game, after going 0-5 (run scored) catching the first game

and as I was typing………Magallanes_bbc tweets “Jose Sanchez will be the new pitcher for Jake Stevens … # Sharks winning the ball game 4 races to 1. Bottom of the 1st inning.”

Luis Rodriguez homer brought two more for the # Sharks. Now the board is 6x1, at the bottom of the 3rd inning.
Jesus' season ended with a 16-1 loss to regular season champs, los Tiburones (Sharks)

Tigres de Aragua with Wilson Ramos play in the final series…

Ramos picked it up at the plate at all?
Haven't looked in at Winter League stats in a while...

…with the link post pool as shallow as it is these days…

I don't think the stats are updated with the playoff stats....

but Ramos wasn’t hitting well from what I remember seeing…

last 10 games of the regular season, .167/.231/.208/.439OPS

.218 /.277/.276/.552 for the season, .205 post season…

is it true

I’m getting breaking news about Prince anyone please confirm

According to my sources

According to my twitter sources Prince is both going to the Rangers and Nats in the last 5 minutes. Cant make this stuff up.

Regular folks on Twitter are saying so

But no sources yet. Nothing from media that I can see…

I would say no

Nada on mlbtr

Yeah I dont buy it.

Ill believe it when Its confirmed.

Where is he going per these rumors

As I don’t have a tweeter

One saying D.C., one Texas, don't know what those folks are up to, no one official anywhere is saying anything...
Prince to nats rumors look fake

MLB inside news has been wrong many times

Some dispelled Longoria rumors in the past from what I've read...
Scott Swaim, MLBInsideNews

Scott Swaim
Source from #Nationals front office: DONE deal on Fielder. He has to fly from his home in

FLA to WASH for Physical
MLBInsideNews Scott Swaim
#Nationals/Fielder deal has opt-out after 3.
26 minutes ago

LBInsideNews Scott Swaim
#Breaking: #Nationals to sign Prince Fielder to 8 year deal.
33 minutes ago

Well it does say...

It's inside news.

It also says the Rangers jumped in the last minute.
yes, not for the "outside voice"....
new tweet

@MLBInsideNews
Scott Swaim
@JimBowdenESPNxm Thanks for the follow/tweet. I am confident in my reporting.

Ohhhhhh sh!t he’s confident.

Assuming Bowden's RT should get someone to respond to the report...
Hope the 5 minutes of attention is worth it if this is a fake report.
His bio on twitter is lame
I have no idea of his legitimacy, and don't want to assume someone is making up reports...

But this guy started a rumor about Longoria he was later forced to apologize for. LINK.

his bio does make him sound pretty full of himself

and generally, reliable sources don’t need to be all huff and puff about how sweet they are.

Reddington I think you’re right about Bowden’s response. The “real” baseball guys probably follow him.

Going back to writing about Upton rumors, will keep an eye out...
what an ass

@MLBInsideNews
Scott Swaim
For those new to my twitter. I broke Pujols: twitter.com/#!/MLBInsideNe… Beltran: twitter.com/#!/MLBInsideNe… And others

Alright, good for you dude.

If this is true it’s too bad he’s the one to break it.

He seems pompous right there,

but if a bunch of people came to his twitter asking him how he got the info and why he spread an untrue story, it makes sense that he’d respond with the real stories he’d broken to back up his reputation.

He didn't break Pujols.

He tweeted about 2-3 hours after the fact that Pujols was flying to LA for a physical. Hardly “breaking”.

Well then...
I think I've figured him out.

Whenever there’s a hint of possibility for something, he tweets it. He did actually report Pujols signing with the Angels the night before it happened, albeit off by 2 years and 40 mil. That would be very impressive, but reports say Pujols didn’t decide until the morning of. He might actually have connections, but he’s way too fast on the trigger. I’d watch out for tomorrow, and see if this guy is able to pull another rabbit out of his hat.

He’s not pulling an Eklund and editing old posts to make it look like he broke something… is he?

well

maybe he his contacts exist. he has a great twittername, so he at least has every right in this world to try i guess.

its not like heyman and crew are right even 25% of the time.

but I like how the heyman and crew company

quickly shoot him down and question his integrity. Protect this HOUSE!

Why in his info

he mentions he’s the first to break multiple news… he seems phony

Is it OK to choose to believe a rumor

even if it’s likely unfounded and apparently being spread by an unscrupulous joyk, as long as it’s a good rumor?

Well it's not like this rumor is SO good you HAVE to believe it

How about the following:

Fielder to Nats, 6 years, $90 mil. Half the money frontloaded in first two years. Says Fielder, “yea, I know the Nats are going to have to resign Zimmerman after 2013, and then others, so I figured I’d accept less money after then so they can put the best team on the field. Really, I just want this team to win.” In other Nats news, Michael Morse has been training with Usain Bolt, is now fast enough to play center field and steal 50 bases.

Morse turned into Kemp?
yea totally

Spread it. You heard it here first, don’t trust the haters.

Wow, Imaginary Fielder is a team player, a really gracious, generous, "big picture" kind of guy...
You got it all wrong

It’s Prince Fielder who has been training with Usain Bolt. Prince can now run the 40-yd. dash in 4.0 seconds. He played in Winter League ball under an assumed name (Federico Carmona) and stole 30 bases in just 22 games. He also hit 10 triples in that time.

His power was unaffected as well. MLB.com is now projecting that Fielder could be the first 60-60 player in history (60 HRs, 60 stolen bases).

Bizarro Morse now dating Rhianna

All speed/defensive gains immediately negated by paparazzi and starlet drama.

Just a quick FYI:

@JimBowdenESPNxm: “The Nationals continue to work on a deal for Prince Fielder…BUT THERE IS NO DEAL repeat NO DEAL as of tonight according to sources.”

just saw that

that mlb insider guy is some character, eh?

I betcha if he does sign, though, he’ll still claim he was the first to break it.

Yep

He will definiately claim that…and though he seems very full of him self, I hope hes right this time!

The only problem if we get him is Morse’s days seem numbered (I know this is like beating a dead horse), but this is a good problem to have. Worlds apart from where we were even 2 years ago.

I still don't see how we hang on to Zimmerman, either.

I hope, but I have zero confidence in that.

Don't see why not

They can afford him.

I'd be

shocked as hell if Fielder goes to LA. Not saying it won’t happen, but it would have been such a crazy idea a month ago.

Can't imagine it working out either, though I would like to see the Dodgers get all the drama behind them...
And now there's this...

@JimBowdenESPNXM: “According to multiple sources the Nationals and Prince Fielder are working towards a deal but DO NOT have a deal at this time…. stay tuned”

we've been staying tuned all winter
A tidbit about football (which is somewhat relevant for FederalBaseball)

Did you know that Les Expos drafted Tom Brady in the 1995 draft as a catcher? If that whole football career thing doesn’t work out for the guy, he could always try coming back and make an attempt to catch on as a 3rd catcher for the Nats.

Really?

I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

I hope he can hit.

He could be the next Bo Jackson.

18th round too

He’s probably better than Mike Piazza!

Look into my eyes, Rizzo


You WILL sign Fielder…. You WILL sign Fielder…

@Jim_Duquette:
#Orioles are definitely in on PF – it remains to be seen if they’ll go to the “magic” number. But there’s plenty of motivation to sign him

That would be awesome. Fielder: To obscurity and beyond!
If not the Nats, then probably the best solution:

not in the NL, not a team good enough for him to make it relevant. Just hope the curse of Albert Belle doesn’t then fall down on him.

well, the best solution for the nats and presumably for the Fielder bank account.
I can see plenty of motivation for the O's

I can’t see any motivation for Fielder. Everyone does have a price though I suppose. Perhaps Angelos is just being, uh, … Angelos, .. and hoping to make the Nats overpay. Just ’cause he can.

In case we needed a reason to hate Angelos any more than we already do...

THAT would do it.

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